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.45cultist 09-10-2017 09:11 AM

House System closer look.....
 
While looking at more stuff for Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, I realized the TNE books Fire, Fusion and Steel, World tamer's Hand book had more possibilities. I've started a thread about Morrow Project conversions, but this can allow one to create more artifacts like the geothermal furnaces, more classic vehicles, and when I find the relevant book, add dinosaurs. I think GDW actually came to have possibilities before the bottom fell out. I hope this will lead to interesting discussions and opinions. What do you think?

The Dark 09-10-2017 02:03 PM

All of the WWI vehicles I've worked on were done using FF&S, although I use a couple shortcuts (I use the vehicles' recorded speeds rather than calculating them, as an example). The American Civil War portion uses WTH as well, since FF&S on its own doesn't cover black powder.

For adding dinosaurs, the core TNE rulebook will probably be the most useful, since it has the rules for creating aliens.

.45cultist 09-10-2017 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dark (Post 75480)
All of the WWI vehicles I've worked on were done using FF&S, although I use a couple shortcuts (I use the vehicles' recorded speeds rather than calculating them, as an example). The American Civil War portion uses WTH as well, since FF&S on its own doesn't cover black powder.

For adding dinosaurs, the core TNE rulebook will probably be the most useful, since it has the rules for creating aliens.

Yeah, a trip to the storage room for me. For C&D or a TMP conversion, WTH will be good as well.

pmulcahy11b 09-13-2017 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dark (Post 75480)

For adding dinosaurs, the core TNE rulebook will probably be the most useful, since it has the rules for creating aliens.

Don't forget Cadillacs and Dinosaurs!

pmulcahy11b 09-13-2017 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dark (Post 75480)
...since FF&S on its own doesn't cover black powder.
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For the BP guns on my site, I took the tech level of the guns down to 4, and the tech level of the ammunition down to 3.

The Dark 09-13-2017 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b (Post 75526)
For the BP guns on my site, I took the tech level of the guns down to 4, and the tech level of the ammunition down to 3.

I'll have to run numbers, but I think that'll give slightly higher values than the World Tamer's Handbook black powder rules. There are three changes that pop out at me looking at the spreadsheet I built to combine the two:
1. It drops the Cm for black powder (to 0.3 for conical bullets and 0.1 for ball).
2. Black powder barrels have 5 times the rifling modifier of the "normal" barrel of their type (so a BP smoothbore is 20 instead of a smoothbore's 4).
3. Any BP weapon has penetration one step worse than what's shown on the Energy/Pen chart.

dylan 09-14-2017 02:02 AM

Unfortunately, when constructing TL5-8 AFVs FF&S gives some odd results primarily because they made the mass of the tracked suspension far too great. It results in very heavy vehicles compared with their real life equivalents.


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